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The 47% and Other Voters

by: DocJess

Tue Sep 18, 2012 at 06:14:49 AM EDT


There were a lot of different clips last night from the 70 minute off-the-cuff talk that Mittens gave. Later last night, David Corn, the responsible journalist who posted the video, said there was more and he'd be posting today to Mother Jones, where he is Washington Bureau Chief. The bit that struck me most was not that 47% of people don't pay income taxes, because there's a specious element to that, and we'll come back to it. What I heard was that 47% of Americans were going to support Obama no matter what, and that there were 5 - 10% he had to reach to win the election.

Let's parse, shall we?

We know that there are a lot of people who don't pay Federal Income Taxes. Normally, they're the very poor, the low-income elderly, and the über rich. A lot of them pay payroll taxes, except, again the über rich, plus state taxes, use taxes and sales taxes. Most of those people pay a far higher percentage of their income in overall taxes than Mittens does. Hey, **I** pay more in Federal Income Taxes than Mittens does, and I make a tiny fraction of what he earns. 

But let's subtract out from his 47% the über rich, and that other population that won't be voting for Mitt (or anyone) because they're currently incarcerated. And that huge non-voting bloc of people under the age of 18, which actually counts within the total numbers. A lot of kids under 18 actually have Social Security numbers AND pay payroll taxes. 

Now let's add in the total number of people who DO pay income taxes and would never consider voting for Mittens and Eddie Munster. Hey!!! THAT INCLUDES ME!!! AND PROBABLY YOU!!!

Next, let's add to Mitten's 47% the elderly Social Security recipients who pay no taxes, and barely make ends meet, who are part of the 75% of people polled who opposed making Medicare a voucher system. 

You can see where I'm going with this: we thought what he said last week about Libya was untenable, but this is even worse. It's hard to imagine someone having lived as many years as Mittens has who could be so incredibly block-headed to assume there were no recording devices. And now he has alienated a whole bunch of what might have been his base...ah well, good for us, and I've got some numbers that show that.

You've heard me say many times that to win Pennsylvania, a Republican has to win Chester County, PA. And that's always a worry to me because Chester County has always been a higher Republican-to-Democratic registration advantage than any of the other counties surrounding Philadelphia. In fact, except for Delaware County, which has a very slight Republican registration edge, Bucks, Montgomery, Lehigh and Berks all have more registered Democrats than Republicans. 

But I pull the state numbers. which are very detailed, and available on a weekly basis. The spreadsheet is HUGE, so I can't reprint it, but if you want the data, go to this site,  and click on the "current voter registration statistics" link and you'll get the most recent numbers.

I look at the total number of registrations processed, by party, by week. Every week this year, more Republicans than Democrats. Blah, blah, sad....but then, what's that? The week of 21 May - more Democrats, by a few....then, the week of 11 June, almost double the number of Democrats compared to Republicans....and all of a sudden, the vast majority of weeks, MORE DEMOCRATS....for the year, through the week of 17 September? 4,337 Democrats to 4,153 Republicans. I SEE A TREND!!! And I know from the forms that we collect, there are more new Democratic registrations than Republican registrations. (It's important to me that you know we process ALL FORMS at our voter registration site, because it's the right thing to do....)

So here's what I'm thinking. Karl Rove, Sheldon Adelson, Joe Ricketts, the Koch brothers and their brethren know that what Mittens said is what Mittens, and they, believe. Remember the book The Family by Jeff Sharlet? These are two overlapping groups. They believe ALL of us to be so stupid that spending billions will buy them the election. But they forgot people like me, and all MY brethren, who go out with clipboards and voter registration forms. The people who make the phone calls, knock the doors, and put $25 at a time into the campaigns. We're not 47% percent, we're more than 50.1%, and that's what it's going to take to win against the forces of evil.

Am I confident? Not as much as I would be if they weren't also behind the Voter Suppression laws. But they cannot buy me, and they cannot change my resolve. Not me and not all the people who stand with me. MILLIONS of us. 

I hope that you, too, will join us (if you haven't already).....

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DocJess :: The 47% and Other Voters

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paying no federal income taxes (0.00 / 0)
This is actually a weird feeling.

After paying federal income taxes (and state income taxes, Social Security and Medicare taxes, sales taxes, and property taxes) for decades, a year or two ago I did my federal income taxes and owed...zero.

Why? Because my income is Social Security reduced (because I started it after I got laid off and discovered the zero job market for older women) and the minuscule interest on my savings (thanks Fed, you cretinous millionaires and billionaires.)  Add in Schedule A medical, charity, property taxes, I go below the taxable Social Security limit, and my taxable income becomes invisible.

Of course, my property taxes on the old family homestead are another matter.  Somehow those don't count, apparently, nor does the bundle of taxes I paid for decades.

Here I am, a leach on the system, feeding off hard working people.  (Well, actually I live off the principal of my savings, sorry Mitt.)

One thing that stunned me when my taxable income started dropping was looking at the tax tables in that income area and seeing how much people who probably had trouble affording food got taxed.


Part of the 47% (0.00 / 0)
And proud of it. That's right. I'm part of the 47% that Mitt was referring to. The only part that he is right about is that he could never get my vote. I would vote for Gary Johnson before I voted for Mitt.

I pay no income, payroll, etc., taxes except for property and sales tax. I am by no means rich, but I am not poor either. I do not feel "entitled" to what I get from the US Government, I earned it and I am grateful for it. I am not lazy, and would work at a job earning a taxable wage if I could. I in fact have tried over the years to find a job that I could do, but always end up having to quit because of my limitations. You see, I am a Disabled Vet. I draw both Military Retirement and VA Disability. The VA Disability is not taxable, so that keeps my taxable income below the taxable threshold. I know I am not alone, there are a lot like me.

What Mitt said was an insult to me and the thousands like me. Jess, you can tell my story to anyone you need to. To think I am lazy and entitled just because I don't pay taxes. Rubbish. I venture to say there are probably very few people on government assistance, be it WIC, Unemployment, Food-stamps, etc, that are not actively trying to better their lives to get off government help. They are grateful that they are getting help in their time of need, but very few take advantage of the system. I don't know the numbers, but I would bet it's less than 5% of all receiving assistance that are content and lazy just to stay on "entitlements".  


One other thing... (0.00 / 0)
There is a group of Americans who are excused from Federal income taxes as a "benefit" of their employment. They never pay Federal income taxes, never have, likely never will. Nor should they.

They are soldiers in active war zones.

Really.


kids (0.00 / 0)
Is he including kids in the 47% who pay no federal income taxes?


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